Notes from BJ Fogg Phone Call
September 6, 2013
I had the chance to have a quick phone chat with BJ Fogg. I asked him a bunch of questions about behavioral design, specifically with regards to Tomatus. Here are my notes:
- How is Instagram a habit and Evernote not? Figure out how to create frequent use, make it really easy, make something they already want to do.
- "Food tracking needs innovation."
- Anything people do for tracking is what makes people eat better.
- Don’t make [Tomatus] fancy. Just make it fun. Make the funnest app ever, like how Instagram is fun. Don’t build it for everyone. If they think it’s fun, don’t forget to launch the app.
- Follow one person - only if it’s fun. BJ thinks that social has been overrated. Social reinforces you - it’s the motivation, but an app doesn’t need to be social to go viral.
- Keep him posted on Tomatus.




